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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:11 pm 
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Event #4 of the 2012 ARMS Time Attack Regional Championship

September 22nd at Atlantic Motorsport Park, Shubenacadie NS brought to you by the Atlantic Sports Car Club.

This event is sanctioned by ASN Canada FIA and will be held in accordance with the ASN Canada FIA SoloSport General Competition Rules, the 2012 ASN Canada FIA National Time Attack Regulations, these supplementary regulations, and any ASN Canada FIA bulletins or event supplementary bulletins.

This event will run rain or shine!

We need a minimum of 16 competitors pre-registered to proceed with this event! If we do not have the minimum number of competitors pre-registered before 09-15-2012 this event will be CANCELED

PLEASE NOTE: PRE-REGISTRATION DOES NOT REQUIRE PAYMENT. IT SIMPLY MEANS THAT YOU NEED TO FILL OUT THE FORM ONLINE OR CONTACT AN ORGANIZER BY PHONE OR EMAIL AND MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ATTENDING, AND THAT YOU WILL PAY ON SITE.

This event will be a NON-PASSING Time Attack!

--Event Location--
Atlantic Motorsport Park

Directions: -
Take Exit 10 off Highway 102, and head into Shubenacadie (2.3km) -At the stop sign, turn hard right onto West Indian Road (watch for the sign: Indian Brook / Mill Village / McPhee's Corner) -Drive 2.6km, keep right (Look for the Motorsport Park sign) -Drive 2km, turn right onto North Salem Rd (Look for the North Salem / Atlantic Motorsport Park sign) -After 2.6km, the road will change to gravel. Drive on gravel road for another 2.2km -Turn Right onto Race Track Rd (Look for the Atlantic Motorsport Park sign) -Follow this road (1.2km) until you reach the Atlantic Motorsport Park gates
Check out AMP’s web site at http://www.atlanticmotorsportpark.com for more about AMP

--Event Officials--
Chief Organizer – Taylor MacArthur (ASCC SoloSport Director)
Senior Steward - Jason Smith (ARMS SoloSport Director)
Clerk of the course - TBA
Chief Registrar - TBA
Chief Instructor – Brian Gay
Chief Timekeeper - Bluenose Autosport Club
Chief Scrutineer - TBA




--Registration Info--

Fees:
$135.00 – 1 Day Time Attack

Registration is available at:
http://www.ascc.ca

Or by PayPal:
paypal@ascc.ca (please include details)

Or email:
solo@ascc.ca

Or via Snail-Mail to:
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Halifax, Nova Scotia
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CASC-OR's 2010 online database for car classing (you'll need to register)
http://www.macrocosm.on.ca/ccdb/


ASN Canada FIA Self Tech Form is available
http://www.asncanada.com/ASN_Solosport/ ... p_Form.pdf


The following ASN Canada FIA National Regulations are available online
National SoloSport General Competition Regulations
http://www.asncanada.com/ASN_Solosport/ ... rt-GCR.pdf

National Time Attack Regulations
http://www.asncanada.com/ASN_Solosport/ ... ations.pdf

--Event Schedule--

Saturday September 22nd:


Registration and Scrutineering will be from 0800 to 1000
Drivers meeting - 1000
Practice session - 1015 - 1045
First run group on track - 1100
Lunch break 1230 - 1330
Timed sessions resume - 1330



Supplementary Rules and Regulations:
1.0 These Supplementary Rules and Regulations, Supplementary Bulletins, the Event Schedule and event insurance will be posted on the official notice board.
1.1 All competitors must be a current member of an ASN Canada FIA recognized club or an SCCA recognized club. All competitors must have either a current SoloSprint license (or equivalent as required by their Territory) or a current Regional/National Road Race license. These will need to be shown on request at registration.
1.2 All competitors and pit crew must sign the insurance waiver and wear the provided wrist bands at all times.
1.3 All competitors not familiar with AMP can receive a driver orientation session before driving on the track surface, by special request only, before the Drivers Meeting.
1.4 No speeding/reckless driving will be tolerated on the paved/unpaved roads leading to AMP. This applies to all competitors and their crews. If anyone is caught speeding or reckless driving the applicable driver will loose his or her fastest time of the day (second fastest time will be used for scoring)
1.5 Clerk of the course reserves the right to drop/alter sessions. If a run session is dropped for one group then all groups would drop that same run session.
1.6 Drivers or one of their crewmembers must attend all drivers meetings.
1.7 All competing vehicles must have a fire extinguisher of minimum 2.5lb BC type secured in their car.
2.0 No passengers allowed during timed runs
2.1 Safe passing zones during practice/ instructional periods will be between turns 6 and 7 and turns 11 and 1. These will be marked with pylons. Passing is only allowed with hand signals given from driver of vehicle being overtaken. Overtaken vehicle will slow and let vehicle pass safely on the left.
2.2 Vehicles on track- Windows must be 3/4 up or all the way down. If all the way down it is highly recommended that you have either the proper safety window netting or arm restraints.
2.3 All sunroofs/ T tops must be installed and in their locked positions.
2.4 All convertible tops must be up and secured.
2.5 Red Flag - Used to inform ALL drivers to slow down immediately, to first gear speed, and proceed to nearest marshal station and await further instructions.
2.6 Yellow Flag – Informs the driver to slow down and make space from the vehicle ahead, but to proceed at a pace so as not to slow the vehicle behind. The lap on which the flag is displayed will not be scored and a rerun will be granted, for that lap.
2.7 Black Flag - proceed to the pit lane, stop at the first pit stall as you enter pit lane and await instructions to be given to you by the clerk of the course.
2.8 Fuelling is only permitted in the paddock area, not pit lane. All teams must have a fire extinguisher on hand during fuelling.
2.9 Please ensure that you have adequate fuel for the day, it’s a 20-30 minute trip for fuel. ASCC will have some fuel available on site, but not a lot.
2.10 Clothing- competitors, passengers and crewmembers alike should wear long sleeved shirts, and shall wear long pants, fully enclosed footwear (no sandals, etc) while in pit lane or the track.
2.11 Motorized vehicles- ( atv's, motorcycles, etc.) Drivers of such vehicles must obey pit speed limit (15 kph) and drive prudently. Pit Lane and the track are off limits to all such vehicles unless permission is given by the clerk of the course.
2.12 Impound - After your run group has finished it’s allotted runs for the day you will be directed to the impound for 30 minutes where your vehicle will be available for viewing by your fellow competitors- leave your car open for inspection. Do not move your vehicle unless directed to do so by the impound marshal.
2.13 Car Modification info - in impound competitors shall make available upon request by fellow competitors, the preparation (PIP) schedule and, if the relevant option (s) are taken dyno plots and curb weight measurement detail. Failure to produce those materials could be cause for inquiry.
2.14 Below stock HP dyno plots will not be accepted.
3.0 Timing and Scoring:
Class Propositioning will not be used to calculate class championship points therefore Rules 3.2.2, 3.2.3, 3.2.4, 3.2.5 and 3.3.1 of the 2010 ASN Canada FIA National Time Attack Regulations will not be in effect.
3.1 The start and finish lines are located directly adjacent to the starters bridge.
3.2 Competitors will be divided into two or more run groups. Each competitor will have a total of 12 timed runs per day, 3 or 4 sessions on track each with 3 or 4 timed runs per session.

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Online pre-registration and Payment is now available: http://www.ascc.ca/?p=892

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Do we have a count on how many are pre-registered? Does it look good for the event going ahead?


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I think we only have a couple pre-registered for the Sept 22 event but we did hear that there was a lot of interest at the club meeting Tuesday nite....so....PLEASE...if you are interested in running the last Time Attack of the season on Sept 22...register now!!!!

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Pre-registered.

FYI, upon completing the online Time Attack #4 registration form, the message says thank you for registering for ASCC membership and shows a PayPal link for $30.

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Taylor MacArthur wrote:
We need a minimum of 16 competitors pre-registered to proceed with this event! If we do not have the minimum number of competitors pre-registered before 09-15-2012 this event will be CANCELED


Did you get your minimum numbers?

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I'm interested if it helps?

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We Currently have 10 people registered. It will not be ideal, but I think we can make this work. See you all at the track bright and early Saturday Morning!

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I'm most likely gonna be heading down as well


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I'll likely be there to help out again, but am not competing.


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Weekend is looking pretty sloppy so I'm probably out barring forecast changes. :(

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Real racers race in the rain!! :wink: That's why there is tread on your tires. :D

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The bikes run in the rain....why wouldn't a car???

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Remember, this is AMP. They are in a different weather zone than the rest of the world. :roll: And Steve, bring your car down, it'll be good experience, and since everyone else will be slowing down with the wet track, if it is wet, you will likely be more motivated to go faster and not get wet since you're roofless. :P Plus, in the wet is the best experience for the track, gives you more confidence when it isn't wet! Come on down!! :wink:


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The hourly forcast on the weathernetwork.com is calling for sunny breaks in the afternoon. If it looks like it will clear up as the day goes on is there any hope of a late start an run later in the day and run 2 sessions at a time instead of all four at once so each run group gets some nice weather?

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I'll be there hopefully around ten to help out. See you all then

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Brian Partridge wrote:
Remember, this is AMP. They are in a different weather zone than the rest of the world. :roll:


I think each corner has a different weather zone!

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Mike Barker wrote:
Brian Partridge wrote:
Remember, this is AMP. They are in a different weather zone than the rest of the world. :roll:


I think each corner has a different weather zone!



You're right, I remember on a few occasions rain at one end of the track dry at the other end. Rain makes you drive smoother, thus makin you faster in the end!


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ClassNameVehicleBest RunPAF AdjustedPoints
1 GT1 Gabriel O 96 EVO 4 85.243 81.151 100
2 SGT3 Luc S 92 RX7 86.800 83.675 96.984
3 GT2 Matt E 97 M3 89.032 83.690 96.966
4 T1 Mark M 88 BMW 325 90.080 81.432 99.655
5 GT2 Shawn C 09 RX8 90.300 84.882 95.605
6 GT1 Julien S 06 WRX 91.935 87.522 92.721
7 GT3 Derrick C 92 BMW 325 IS 92.345 85.696 94.697
8 GT3 Mark C 04 Mazda 3 92.563 85.898 94.474
9 GT3 David C 93 Pulsar GTI R 93.035 86.336 93.994
10 GT3 Scott W 10 Mazdaspeed 3 95.270 88.411 91.789
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I was driving a completely different car so I changed classes on the entry form. This going to effect your pax calculation as well.

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Luc Sipkema wrote:
I was driving a completely different car so I changed classes on the entry form. This going to effect your pax calculation as well.


Your Car is not on the Ontario Time Attack Base Car list, I am pretty sure you have to e-mail them to get classed properly. I just went through this with my 96 Evo IV GSR and need the first two time attacks (Sept 2nd&3rd) adjusted to set me as a SGT3 class instead of a SGT2 .

I remember you telling me that your car is a 1995 Subaru Impreza WRX STI RA. From what I have read the specs on it are: Stock HP 256 (260PS) Stock Curb Weight 2596lbs. Link to where I got this info : http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/subar ... _11/27658/

If I were to take a guess based on power to weight I would imagine your car stock would be an SGT3 or at the very top of GT1 ( with premium R-Comps ) .
For example My car was classed almost at the top of GT1 Stock ( with premium R-Comps ) and is 276 HP and weighs 2976lbs and it starts with 79.4 Pips. ( 80-84.9 Pips is SGT3 )

Power to weight 1995 Subaru Impreza WRX RA: power to weight ratio of 0.0986132512

Power to Weight 1996 Lancer Evolution IV GSR: power to weight ratio of 0.0927419355

Used this Calculator to get power to weight: http://www.easycalculation.com/physics/ ... -ratio.php

Here is the Link to E-mail the CASC to have them class your car: http://www.macrocosm.on.ca/ccdb/ContactUs.aspx

Hope this helps you sort out your Vehicle classing :)


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I see that I have Luc S (GT3)and Mark C(T2) in classes other than was marked on their entry form. I do remember people coming and changing their classes during the event, but grey hair affects my memory of who or which classes changed.
I seek advice from those who understand the classing system.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:54 pm 
actually gabe is a little off on the specs here's to clarify
Power to Weight Ratio =0.1024362769
which is more power
hope this will clear things up i have memorized the time attack regs and know the formulas and car data base quite well.

Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2004 2004 3263.00 300.00 80 AWD 10.88 83.18 82.2 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 2005 2005 3298.00 300.00 80 AWD 10.99 82.78 81.9 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 2006 2006 3351.00 300.00 80 AWD 11.17 82.17 81.5 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 2007 2007 3351.00 293.00 80 AWD 11.44 81.25 80.8 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2008 2008 3395.00 305.00 80 AWD 11.13 82.31 81.6 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2011 2011 3384.00 305.00 80 AWD 11.10 82.43 81.7 SGT3

The WRX Type RA is a stripped down version of the WRX that was available in the Japanese market for people to purchase for motorsports and tuning. Targeted for race and rally, the RA versions were generally lighter in weight; featuring reduced soundproofing, manual windows, no air conditioning, no anti-lock brakes, and added racing features such as more robust engines, driver controlled center differentials, and shorter gearing. The WRX Type RA uses a closer ratio gearbox and a three-spoke leather steering wheel from Nardi.

kerb weight 1200 kg 2646 lb
maximum power output 274.8 PS (271 bhp) (202.1 kW)
at 6500 rpm
maximum torque 319 Nm (235 ft·lb) (32.5 kgm)
at 4000 rpm

with 9.76lbs/hp your car is not even going to come close to being a gt3 :wink:

here are the cars in your power to weight class so you know where you will stand thats actually how cars are classed also suspension comes into play as well
hp to weight is in blue
BMW Z4 M Roadster 2006 2006 3197.00 330.00 75 RWD 9.69 87.28 83.5 SGT3
Jaguar XKR Coupe 2005 2005 3785.00 390.00 65 RWD 9.71 87.22 80.5 SGT3
Nissan 370Z Coupe 2009 2011 3232.00 332.00 75 RWD 9.73 87.12 83.4 SGT3
Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 2011 AT 3913.00 400.00 65 RWD 9.78 86.96 80.3 SGT3

with all the other sti's being sgt3 and yours being a lighter rally spec. and with your power to weight ratio.

Besides we were told you cant class yourself until ontario time attack gets back to you about your car. We had to wait for it regardless of "similar" cars we didnt like it either but its the rules.

I hope you didnt think that because the pulsar was gt3 your sti ra was gt3 as they are considerably different.


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actually gabe is a little off on the specs here's to clarify
Power to Weight Ratio =0.1024362769
which is more power
hope this will clear things up i have memorized the time attack regs and know the formulas and car data base quite well.

Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2004 2004 3263.00 300.00 80 AWD 10.88 83.18 82.2 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 2005 2005 3298.00 300.00 80 AWD 10.99 82.78 81.9 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 2006 2006 3351.00 300.00 80 AWD 11.17 82.17 81.5 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 2007 2007 3351.00 293.00 80 AWD 11.44 81.25 80.8 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2008 2008 3395.00 305.00 80 AWD 11.13 82.31 81.6 SGT3
Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2011 2011 3384.00 305.00 80 AWD 11.10 82.43 81.7 SGT3

The WRX Type RA is a stripped down version of the WRX that was available in the Japanese market for people to purchase for motorsports and tuning. Targeted for race and rally, the RA versions were generally lighter in weight; featuring reduced soundproofing, manual windows, no air conditioning, no anti-lock brakes, and added racing features such as more robust engines, driver controlled center differentials, and shorter gearing. The WRX Type RA uses a closer ratio gearbox and a three-spoke leather steering wheel from Nardi.

kerb weight 1200 kg 2646 lb
maximum power output 274.8 PS (271 bhp) (202.1 kW)
at 6500 rpm
maximum torque 319 Nm (235 ft·lb) (32.5 kgm)
at 4000 rpm

with 9.76lbs/hp your car is not even going to come close to being a gt3 :wink:

here are the cars in your power to weight class so you know where you will stand thats actually how cars are classed also suspension comes into play as well
hp to weight is in blue
BMW Z4 M Roadster 2006 2006 3197.00 330.00 75 RWD 9.69 87.28 83.5 SGT3
Jaguar XKR Coupe 2005 2005 3785.00 390.00 65 RWD 9.71 87.22 80.5 SGT3
Nissan 370Z Coupe 2009 2011 3232.00 332.00 75 RWD 9.73 87.12 83.4 SGT3
Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 2011 AT 3913.00 400.00 65 RWD 9.78 86.96 80.3 SGT3

with all the other sti's being sgt3 and yours being a lighter rally spec. and with your power to weight ratio.

Besides we were told you cant class yourself until ontario time attack gets back to you about your car. We had to wait for it regardless of "similar" cars we didnt like it either but its the rules.

I hope you didnt think that because the pulsar was gt3 your sti ra was gt3 as they are considerably different.



I stand corrected, I guess I was looking at an earlier generation or where I got my info from was inaccurate. Either way even if his car was stock an SGT3, I am pretty sure he was on street tires, that would reduce his points by 10 and should land him 2 classes lower ( GT2 ) not SGT3 where he currently is. But you are right we cannot class cars only Ontario Time Attack can, so E-mail em your specs and get classed.


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^ yes Street tires.

I ran the car because that is what i had with me. It will likely never be run again. The event organizers can class me wherever they see fit.

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^ yes Street tires.

I ran the car because that is what i had with me. It will likely never be run again. The event organizers can class me wherever they see fit.


They will class you with what ota says you are, we were gonna guess mine but Brian Gay explained we never guess. Just email them ASAP and tell them its the end of the season and you need to get ranked soon. You may get an award with your time. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:11 pm 
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I see that I have Luc S (GT3)and Mark C(T2) in classes other than was marked on their entry form. I do remember people coming and changing their classes during the event, but grey hair affects my memory of who or which classes changed.
I seek advice from those who understand the classing system.


Yeah I was classed wrong, I am supposed to be a T2 which would give me a pax time of 82.566 (3rd place) It's all good, lets just PLZ fix it asap. I also need to have the other two times out re-classed at well (Had roughly the same time as what I had last weekend)

thanks James for pointing this out :)


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I have them changed on my results. I will not post them untill I am sure which class is correct. I will try to see Jason or Brian at the lapping day.


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James Pidgeon Partridge wrote:
I have them changed on my results. I will not post them untill I am sure which class is correct. I will try to see Jason or Brian at the lapping day.



All good man! I'm just going by the email that Ontario sent me. But this is for all 3 days I was classes as a gt3. And my car was wrong. Ha. Can't wait to see where I actually stand. :)


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James Pidgeon Partridge wrote:
I have them changed on my results. I will not post them untill I am sure which class is correct. I will try to see Jason or Brian at the lapping day.



All good man! I'm just going by the email that Ontario sent me. But this is for all 3 days I was classes as a gt3. And my car was wrong. Ha. Can't wait to see where I actually stand. :)



Still with a 1:32.278 I believe. A 1:32.5xx in the wet. :wink:


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