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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 9:15 pm 
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90 Miata
Koni sports with coilover sleeves
550/350 F/R springs
Alignment and ride height will not be OEM
Toyo RA1 or R888 on 15x7 wheels
Rollbar and harness bar
Stock sways but rear may be disconnected.

STS?


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 9:19 pm 
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CSP. Could be STS with 200tw tires.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:11 am 
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Thanks Scott.

BTW found this "quick guide" for the categories which helps narrow it down to which class regs should be looking at. Does this work for the ASN rules as well?
http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/003/726/2015-1-28_Quick_Reference_of_Category_Allowances.pdf?1432652727


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:14 am 
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I'm going to bump this to get some help to class my car. I think I fall into street prepared but would appreciate some input.

2011 Subaru Sti
Stock Suspension other than Adjustable rear sway bar and Adjustable rear lower control arms
Turboback exhaust, larger injectors and fuel pump, upgraded radiator, and ecu tune
engine and trans mounts, short shifter, diff bushings
Potenza RE-71R in 255/35/18 on 18x9.5 rim

Thanks in advance folks!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:41 am 
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As long as you haven't made changes to the turbo system (wastegate, etc) then yes, Street prepared. ASP.

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Jeff P wrote:
I'm going to bump this to get some help to class my car. I think I fall into street prepared but would appreciate some input.

2011 Subaru Sti
Stock Suspension other than Adjustable rear sway bar and Adjustable rear lower control arms
Turboback exhaust, larger injectors and fuel pump, upgraded radiator, and ecu tune
engine and trans mounts, short shifter, diff bushings
Potenza RE-71R in 255/35/18 on 18x9.5 rim

Thanks in advance folks!

I don't see allowances in Street Touring (STU) for injectors and fuel pumps.
ECU tune isn't allowed in Street Prepared (ASP).
Looks like it falls into SM.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:48 am 
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You can tune in SP(I think you can even have a stand-alone system), and injectors. No idea on fuel pump.

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Joel N wrote:
You can tune in SP(I think you can even have a stand-alone system), and injectors. No idea on fuel pump.

You're allowed to tune in Street Touring. You can't in Street Prepared. Injectors and pump are fine in SP.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:32 am 
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SP has classes for IT-A-B-C-E-R racecars and they are allowed to tune. So in turn SP will allow tuning.

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Street Touring Section 14.10: Engine & Drivetrain
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F. The engine management system parameters and operation of internal combustion engines may be modified only via the methods listed below. These allowances also apply to forced induction cars, except that no changes to standard boost levels, intercoolers, or boost controls are permitted. Boost changes indirectly resulting from allowed modifications are permissible but directly altering or modifying the boost or turbo controls, either mechanically or electronically, is strictly prohibited. Traction control parameters may not be altered. Any OE OBD2 or newer communications port functionality must remain. The Check Engine Light (CEL) or Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) may be disabled via software. Alternate software maps which violate these restrictions may not be present during competition, regardless of activation. Only OE sensors may be used for engine management.

1. Reprogrammed ECU/PCM (via hardware and/or software) may be used in the standard housing.

2. Supplementary (“Piggyback”) ECU may be used subject to the following restrictions:
a. Connects between the standard ECU/PCM and its wiring harness only.
b. Must be plug-compatible with the standard ECU/PCM (no splices).

3. Electronic components may be installed in-line between an engine’s sensors and ECU/PCM. These components may alter the signal coming from the sensor in order to affect the ECU/PCM operation of engine management system. Example: Fuel controllers that modify the signal coming from an airflow sensor.

4. Fuel pressure regulators may be replaced in lieu of electronic alterations to the fuel system. It is not permitted to electronically modify the
fuel system AND replace a fuel pressure regulator.

5. Ignition timing may be set at any point on factory adjustable distributor ignition systems.

6. VTEC controllers and other devices may be used which alter the timing of factory standard electronic variable valve timing systems


That doesn't carry over to Street Prepared. Most race prepared cars fall under Prepared, not Street Prepared.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:45 am 
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Joel N wrote:
SP has classes for IT-A-B-C-E-R racecars and they are allowed to tune. So in turn SP will allow tuning.


Gotta be careful - the IT classes have to follow the IT rules and *not* the SCCA autocross rules when competing in SP classes. This includes wheel widths, min weights, all that stuff.

But as for ECU tuning:

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15.1.D - Alternate computer control modules may be used whenever an equivalent change to the conventional system is allowed. For example, alternate computer module control of ignition settings or fuel injection is allowed.

15.9.A - Any ignition setting, adjustment, or system may be used subject to the requirements of Section 15.10.D. This does not prohibit the use of “two-step” rev limiters used when the car is stationary

15.10.C - Carburetors, fuel injection, and intake manifolds are unrestricted subject to Section 15.10.D.

15.10.D - Traction and/or stability control systems, as defined in Section 12.12, must be standard parts at standard settings or electronically disabled


Lots of SP cars are running full standalone setups. All they are restricting ECU wise is aftermarket traction control.

And the turbo cars have special restrictions:

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15.10.C.4 - Turbochargers and/or superchargers (forced induction) may not be added, changed, or modified (this does not allow ceramic coating of turbochargers). On vehicles originally equipped with forced induction:
a. No hardware changes or alterations to turbocharger(s) or supercharger(s), in size or number, are permitted. Turbochargers or superchargers may be updated/backdated only in conjunction with the accompanying complete engine unit.
b. No changes are allowed to waste gate(s) size, number, or location. No changes are allowed to variable-geometry turbine (VGT) hardware.
c. No changes are allowed to supercharger drive system pulleys. Belt tensioners may be added/changed to reduce belt slip.
d. No changes are permitted to blow-off/pop-off valves.
e. Compressor bypass valves (CBVs) are considered part of the air intake system and may be added, replaced, or updated/backdated independently of the other components of a forced induction system.
f. Boost regulation systems, either electronic or mechanical, and electronic fuel cuts referencing boost pressure may be altered or modified except as prohibited herein. Boost pressure changes resulting from authorized changes are permitted.



You are correct in that SP does not "build" off ST for allowances, but I have yet to find anything in ST that isn't also legal in SP.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:30 pm 
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Just found a for sale add for a Nationally competitive FSP Mazda.
Says it has a maga-squirt system and is tuned for E85.
I think that system is even a stand-alone system.
I think it might be a catch 22 thing here. While it doesn't directly state ECU tuning is allowed, It says ANY Carb and ignition system may be run. That is what new cars call a ECU. lol. I use to say tuning wasnt allowed in SP classes, but changed my view after every class winning FSP car has a Hondata chip and tuning. And there open about it. So it has to come down to how to read the rule.



For Sale...1991 Mazda 323 F Street Prepared Car...the Evil Minion

National Championship Trophies

2014 FSP National Champion
2014 FSP 6th Place
2014 FSPL 3rd Place
2013 FSP 5th Place
2013 FSP 6th Place

National Championship Trophies with the sedan chassis

2012 FSP 3rd Place
2012 FSPL National Champion
2011 FSP 7th Place
2010 FSP 3rd Place






Weight - approx. 2100lbs race weight


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1.8L DOHC BP
Race Engineering built bottom end
Lightened stock oil pan
Adjustable Cam Gears
Boundary Engineering LTW crank pulley
Lightened stock water pump pulley
Martelius 4-1 ceramic coated header w/ Burns merge collector
Burns Stainless Race muffler into a Magnaflow bullet muffler w/ turndown
AWR poly engine/trans mounts
Unicorn single core stock radiator
'99 Miata Coils and CAS
Thermal Intake Manifold gasket
Custom Oil Catch can
Custom Air Box and intake piping
Megasquirt MS1 v.3 tuned for E85
Ballistics 8 cell LTW battery

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THIS PART IS OFF TOPOC LOL
Also as i said above IT legal racecars are allowed to run in the SP classes. I know Brian P neon is ITA legal, and in FSP it states ITA legal cars fall in that class, and his is legal as i put the legal CAMS in it lol. And he can run and 15X7 rim this year. They had to make a change as tire companys are slowly cutting production of 14 tires. Just a heads up on that one. lol They do not go to Prepared. Here is the listing of rules for RACECAR in SP classes.
Maybe Dave or Jenn earl will read this as they have a very fancy little ITB golf. lol.


Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current Club Racing Improved
Touring (IT) rules are permitted to compete in their respective Street Prepared
classes. Neither Street Prepared nor Improved Touring cars are permitted
to interchange preparation rules. Improved Touring cars may use
tires which are eligible under the current IT rules even if they are not eligible
in Street Prepared.
Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current Club Racing American
Sedan (AS) rules are permitted to compete in Street Prepared class B (BSP).
Neither Street Prepared nor American Sedan cars are permitted to interchange
preparation rules. American Sedan cars may use tires which are eligible
under current AS rules even if they are not eligible in Street Prepared.
Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current Club Racing Touring
T2-T4 Category rules are permitted to compete in their respective Street Prepared
classes. Neither Street Prepared nor Touring T2-T4 cars are permitted
to interchange preparation rules. Touring T2-T4 cars may use tires which
are eligible under current Touring T2-T4 rules even if they are not eligible in
Street Prepared.
Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current Street Touring® category
rules are permitted to compete in their respective Street Prepared classes,
with the additional allowance that they may use any tire which meets the
requirements of 15.3 and fits on the Street Touring® compliant wheels and
within the Street Touring® compliant bodywork.
Cars eligible for the current Club Racing Spec Miata class are permitted to
compete in Street Prepared class D (DSP), with the additional allowance that
they may use any size of any tire which meets the requirements of 15.3 and
fits on the Spec Miata compliant wheels and within the compliant bodywork.
Spec Miata cars in DSP may not intermix use of the Spec Miata and Street
Prepared allowances. The competitor is responsible for being in possession
of the Spec Miata rules and for proving that his/her car conforms to the rules.
ASN Canada FIA National SoloSport Regulations AutoSlalom 2016 142 of 258
88 — 2016 SCCA® National Solo® Rules
15. Street Prepared
Cars listed as eligible in and prepared to the current Club Racing B-Spec Regulations
are permitted to compete in their respective Street Prepared Classes.
Neither Street Prepared nor B-Spec cars are permitted to interchange preparation
rules. B-Spec cars may use tires which are eligible under current Club
Racing B-Spec rules even if they are not eligible in Street Prepared.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:03 pm 
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Thanks for the replies guys. I signed up for Slemon early yesterday an just went with the SM class. I don't imagine I will be overly competitive in my first event but wanted to try and properly class myself just incase haha.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:17 am 
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ECU changes and tuning are definitely allowed in SP
I've been running a PowerFC for 4-5 years now

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