Supplemental Regulations for Sept 14, 2013 AutoSlalom #8 - ASCC Club Event

Location: Stoneridge Fellowship, 85 Temple Terrace, Sackville, NS
Organizer: ASCC Solo committee
Course Set Up Workforce: ***Volunteers Needed
Timing and Scoring: James and Charlotte and Cathy Partridge, and Krista Barron
Registrar: Charlotte abd Cathy Partridge and Krista Barron
Chief Scrutineer: TBD
Safety Steward: TBD
Entry Fee: $20.00 (for members of an ARMS-affiliate club).

Schedule:

0800: Volunteers are asked to arrive.
0830: Registration and Scrutineering Open.
1030: Registration and Scrutineering Closed.
1035: Drivers meeting.
1040: "Official" course walk.
1100: First car starts.



Insurance: As required by ARMS, provided by ASN Canada FIA. Waiver to be signed by all persons on-site.

Regulations: This event will be held under the General Competition Rules of ARMS, and the Atlantic Sports Car Club event regulations. This is the 8th event of the 2013 ASCC club Autoslalom season.

Absolutely no speeding or reckless driving around the site will be tolerated. Driving behavior during the event will be discussed at the drivers meeting

Notes:

Run/Work Groups:

All cars must have their competition number and class displayed on both sides of their car for the benefit of the Paddock Marshall and the Timing and Scoring staff.

Work groups will be called by the car number of competitors who are required to work. Everyone will work at least once as assigned by the Organizer. Competitors are reminded to report quickly to their workstations in order to ensure quick turn around. Failure to report for work assignment will result in forfeiture of points and any remaining runs. The work assignment list will be available from the Organizer and the Paddock Marshall.

Hmmm, rally car slalom on crappy no-grip all seasons? Mayyyybe. Can I request a really open course?

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Check out: Rally East, The Ledwidge Lookoff Rally

If Trevor has his way setting it up it will be as open as he can make it!

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I'm in.

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2017-18 BAC Overall Rallycross Champion

Hmmmm... I was planning to skip this (and any Stoneridge) event simply because I absolutely hate tight 1st gear courses.

Curious now....

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1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 EVO X MR

It's only a 1st gear course if you want to be near redline during most of it! Come on, you need the seat time

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'22 Golf R

All 3 times I was there I was in second gear for 85% of the course Then again I was in a Neon not an 'ol EVO . (Insert jealous face here!)

Of course it depends on the car, but second gear is absolutely the way to go for me even on the church courses.

Hard to be smooth when you're on and off the throttle near redline in first.

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2013+14+15 Atlantic Region Motor Sports Overall Autocross Champion
2017-18 BAC Overall Rallycross Champion

I absolutely agree that running in 2nd (regardless of the speed) is better in most cases. My point was that the Stoneridge courses, from what I've seen in the onboard videos, could / have been run completely in 1st gear which means they're slow & tight, and I generally do not enjoy such courses.

If Trevor is able to design a course that necessitates shifting to 2nd gear (and staying in it) then that would make the event more appealing to me as an individual. I guess that's what I was trying to say.

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1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 EVO X MR

Don't let them fool you Scott, the course is "tight as a frogs arse....and thats water tight"

But since it ain't that far from home...come on out and have a look and judge for yourself.


BTW...does anyone know the owner of the amazing black JDM Supra or all black BRZ that is on Oceanview drive in Bedford ???


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We could not do this course completely in first gear as fast as we can do it in second gear. Besides, you have a smaller car.....all the better to turn in fast!

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Scott, I'm willing to co-drive your Evo with you, just to show you how to drive quickly on a tight course.

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1989 Van Diemen - Formula 2000 Continental

OH...."SMACK"

The EVO has a turning radius equivalent to that of a container ship, so if its a tight course, some 2-point turns may be required.

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1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 EVO X MR

Just means you need more attack and pre-rotation, its a rally car after all!

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Check out: Rally East, The Ledwidge Lookoff Rally

Not at 30 kph on tarmac.

I was getting lots of rotation at the Coliseum last Sunday though! Too bad my Drift camera decided to stop working. Grrrr.

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1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 EVO X MR

What'd the drift do? The only time I've ever had problems with mine were when I was feeding it dodgy power.

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Check out: Rally East, The Ledwidge Lookoff Rally

It will not power on. Battery is fine (tested it in another camera). Won't even start with the USB plugged in. I gotta contact support.

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1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 EVO X MR

Um... do you remember what I used to drive?!?!?!

Who better to teach you, young old grasshopper!

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1989 Van Diemen - Formula 2000 Continental

Not sure if it's the turning radius, but it understeers badly. A good alignment setup helps a lot. Have to really throw mine around hard to get it to turn.

The Talon was like that initially, and still is to some degree. Suspension / differential upgrades and aggressive alignment settings have helped immensely. However this EVO X has very sharp turn-in and is easy to induce oversteer; right out of the box. I was amazed at how well balanced it is. That said, you need to be moving at a fair clip to get it rotate.

The turning radius is dismal though. I literally have to make a 2-point turn just to steer it 90º into a parking spot between two cars. It's ridiculous.

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1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 EVO X MR

You should be backing into that spot, or at least driving through it.

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"The future is already here — it's just not very evenly distributed."-William Gibson
1989 Van Diemen - Formula 2000 Continental

Haha... How did an Autoslalom thread turn into parking advice for Scott.

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1997 Talon TSi AWD
2008 EVO X MR

You're welcome

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1989 Van Diemen - Formula 2000 Continental

My Focus is like that too

Okay, car is ready for next weekend. Ian and I are in

Ian Pearce #??
Gordon Sleigh #73
2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
Class: Rally

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Check out: Rally East, The Ledwidge Lookoff Rally

Rain, Rain go away...

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'99 BMW M3 / "Elvic"

Rain rain bring it on. AWDFTW. (It still won't help our car. )

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2005 Forester XT (Daily/B2Tuned), 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS P4WD Class Rally Car, 2006 WRX RallyCross Car (Sponsors: Rally-Tech, Great North Performance, ISI Automotive)
Check out: Rally East, The Ledwidge Lookoff Rally

Just as a heads up. We are keeping a eye on the weather. (i didnt even know about the storm till trevor texted my. )

Everyone should check here over the next few days for more info. Or if it passes, ignore this post.

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It's only calling for 15mm or rain. My massive oil leak is now fixed, so I'm game for a run in the wet.

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