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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:46 am 
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I watched the F1 highlights this morning, all I have to say is that I'm glad that there is no radio communication in motorcycle racing. Varga, if you saved up some money then you might be interested to know that the Nurburgring is for sale for $160 million and it includes the GP circuit.

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Downloading the race right now..... ETA 30mins 1hr 50mins :(
Just a reminder, no spoilers tonight during our race.

So the plan for tonight, at 8:00 I'll send the invites out (be logged into F1 2012 and watching for the invite).
We will wait 5mins in the lobby for everyone to join. Then we'll start quali and onto the race.

AI will be a mix of Am & Int.

Cheechoo & I did a race with 1 Pro in it last night, and he kept us more than honest. We placed 1/2 but he wasn't far behind, and actually had the lead at one point I think.

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Formula 1 2013 - Australian Grand Prix Highlights Race Edit
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:38 pm 
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Might be late for tonight, for the same reason as always.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:40 pm 
Ya no spoilers for Malaysia, just watched quali and dling the race to watch tomorrow. Should be interesting tonight, looking forward to something different.


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Well, for some reason our usual 3 hours meeting ended up in a 30 mins meeting!! So forget the about that earlier notice.


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Albongo, Cheechoo & I are online waiting......


Steve, Rob, Varga?

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Sorry couldn't make it tonight......I will be on this coming week.......

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:34 am 
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The 3 of us raced last night.

For the first race we did 1/2 Amt and 1/2 Int for the AI.
This proved to be very bad.

The Amt were basically moving chicanes, some were lapped twice during a 25% race.
During quali the track was very busy, making it hard to find clean air and put in a good lap.
I had a Toro Rosso basically STOP in front of me (well before the braking zone) and I ran into the back of him. The computer gave me a 10 grid spot penalty. So I started 12th, with Cheechoo on pole. (I think Alex was 3rd then promoted to 2nd).

Moving forward we used Int AI.

I made a good start, making my way up to 8th after the first couple of turns, but then I was spun (by the AI) and I had to sit and wait for the field to pass before safely carrying on. In last place I managed to fight my way and passed Rosberg for 3rd on the last lap of the race. Cheechoo and Alonso were too far ahead.

Qualifying for the second race went better, cheechoo had pole again, but I was also starting at the front row. However during the start, before we even made it to the first corner, I was spun (again) by the AI. I really wish this game had replays because I don't know what happened. I was traveling in a straight line, and some AI performed the 'pit maneuver' on me. Again in last place I fought my way back up to 2nd before the end of the race. However cheechoo was +40 seconds ahead of me.

Third race started off great, I had pole and was off to a good start. At the end of the long straight, something odd happened, I saw cheechoo dive down the inside and then made contact with my car forcing both of us off the track, however then his car then 'teleported' and he was around the turn and heading on his way. I recovered and followed suit. Cheechoo maintained a 2-3 second gap over the next laps until the pitstop window. We both pitted on the same lap and left the pits 3 seconds apart. On these harder/newer tires I managed to start closing the gap, at about 0.5 seconds per lap. I managed to get within 1 second however then I had some technical difficulties, my TV went black for about 3-4 seconds. When it came back I was 5 seconds behind cheechoo, then several seconds later as I was approaching some backmarkers it did it again for about 2-3 seconds. By the time I recovered I was 13 seconds behind cheechoo with only 3-4 laps left in the race. Alonso was over 1min behind me. Unless cheechoo makes a serious error I wasn't going to catch him, but I could grab fastest lap if I pitted for fresh option tires and turned up the revs, so that's what I did. I put in the fastest lap of the race on the last lap.

All in all good fun, but we need more humans.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:04 am 
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I saw cheechoo dive down the inside and then made contact with my car forcing both of us off the track

Really? We made contact? From what happened on my side, I was diving into the inside, seen it was too risky so I almost came to a complete stop to avoid touching you, but you went wide so I just continued into the corner without touching(well that was from my side). I was wondering what happened there too, it looked odd! Like if I made contact with you but from a distance?

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Sometime some AI were lagging, the one that rammed me on the straight per example, was weaving from left the right

That's exactly what happened to me while we were racing the other day.

And for the qualifying, my only goal was to qualify in front of the AI. As soon as it was done, I'd sit in the pit watching your times while taking a snack because I wasn't sure if our qualifying tires were kept for the beginning of the race (happened to me the other day, had to pit after only one lap), so took no chances.

As for the races, this games feels less lonely even when I'm racing by myself since I'm not too confident on my ability to keep the car straight and on track. So it keeps a little fight while you're not fighting with the others. And on the last race Jason, you should have stayed on the track since I spun out twice in the last couple of laps, AI issues. I was looking at the traffic going by waiting to see you pass just to notice the split times.


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So how's the points system working? Are we including our position with the AI? Or just the order of the players?


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I saw cheechoo dive down the inside and then made contact with my car forcing both of us off the track

Really? We made contact? From what happened on my side, I was diving into the inside, seen it was too risky so I almost came to a complete stop to avoid touching you, but you went wide so I just continued into the corner without touching(well that was from my side). I was wondering what happened there too, it looked odd! Like if I made contact with you but from a distance?


Yea I figured it must have been a glitch, on my screen I made my initial turn in and saw your car come down the inside and both of us were forced off into the green area, then your car disappeared and reappeared already around the turn and heading towards the final corner.

I'm more worried about my TV going blank. It's done it about a dozen times since I've owned it (it's about 5yrs old).
Problem is I don't know if it's the TV, PS3, receiver or the HDMI cable..... since it only happens like once every few months troubleshooting is a bitch.

Jonathan Rousselle wrote:
So how's the points system working? Are we including our position with the AI? Or just the order of the players?


I was going to score it based on our finishing position.
So it would be:

Cheechoo 75
MerlinRPM 51
Albongo 3

It kinda makes it fun "interesting" when you're behind the AI and your fighting for points.
I suppose we could include the AI in the points system.... hehe

Alonso 33
Massa 24
Rosbeg 23
Webber 21
etc

This series/game is so new I'm open to suggestions.

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I'm more worried about my TV going blank. It's done it about a dozen times since I've owned it (it's about 5yrs old).

I have the same issue once in a while with my 2 years old TV, it rarely happened when gaming(happened 1-2 times during our GT5 series) thankfully. The screen just goes black but you still hear the voices or whatever is happening on the screen. I was thinking it might be my Toshiba that was the issue, but since you seem to have the same problem. It could be something else.


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Yea the same thing happens, audio remains but the video cuts out.

Funny what 10 seconds of Googling will find you....
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/ ... p/30444098

It says to select 1080p and/or 1080i but not both, now F1 2012 is 720p (annoying) so I don't know if this will help or not.
I checked and mine was set to 1080i & 1080p (also 480p & 720p). I deselected 1080i, so we'll see what happens.

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Well, that is pretty simple. Should've done a quick search lol.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:55 pm 
Ya i was having an alright time in quali, despite the heavy at times traffic. Although come the race i seemed to always get on the sticky end of some AI "pit manouvers"...which would have me end up last only to fight back to midfield...

Either way i had fun and it was good times going 2 or 3 seconds faster to catch the group again...

I'm interested on how this will play out over the course of the season, might be we just need to get used to the way the AI reacts. I'm willing to stick with it anyhow.

As a side note, i think my fastest laps were only a sec or two off your guys' pace, which for me i am very happy with.


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Found this.... too funny not to share....
Spoiler!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:19 pm 
Thats classic haha...all i can say is that race made things "interesting" for the next little while i think...


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Anyone up for some practice tonight?

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Wont be there before 9:30 tonight so I might not be there at all
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Varga & I running late...... In the middle of a co-op race..... Canada

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Well last night I expected to do well in Bahrain and Spain, but Monaco proved to be when it came together for me.

I was on pole in Bahrain, however I went a little deep into the first corner, just as well too because so did Alonso and he ran me off the track. When I recovered I was in 11th or 12th place, however in the long straight down to turn 3, I was spun by the AI. I don't know who (I wish we had replays). Once I recovered I was dead last. I fought my way back up to 12th place, but came together with a Force India, and this dropped me back down to 20th. Fighting for 18th place I was hit and push way off into the gravel. By the time I came back on track I was 24th, and +12 seconds to the nearest car. I decided to pit for new tires, clean air and to try to bang out the fastest lap of the race, which I did.

I was on pole for Spain, first corner went well and I pulled a nice gap over the first opening lap, however my TV went blank (I guess I didn't fix the issue) and when it came back I was in 4th. A spin from the AI in turn 1 put me in last place. Over the next 14 laps I managed to climb back up into 2nd place. However 1st place was too far ahead +14 seconds.

We decided to do 1-shot qualifying for Monaco. Qualifying with the AI on track would have lead to too many unwarranted penalties.
I qualified on pole, but I was VERY concerned about turn 1. The race started fine and I made it through turn 1 clean. The race was pretty uneventful for the most part except while going into turn 1 on one lap late in the race my TV went blank again. I made the turn (using muscle memory) and then eased off the gas. When the screen came back I was heading up the hill and managed to avoid contact with the barriers (in Monaco no less). It also didn't hurt that I had a +40 second lead over the next car.

I'm not sure what happened to Cheechoo, I saw he was up as high as 2nd (twice) during the race. I know he started from the back with Varga and Alex.

I think I'd like to continue with this series, but not have it as a "points" series or anything serious. Too few players and the game menu mechanics are not helpful for multiplayer.

The equal cars and new tracks are a welcome bit of fresh air. As much as the AI ruins our races and pisses us off, it is fun to have a rabbit in front of you, it's also nice because you're never really alone with a field of 24 cars.

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Yeah, it was pretty much what I would call a rage quit to say the truth.

During qualifying I couldn't I lost an insane amount of time trying to get my L1 (downshift) button to work which made me cut the nouvelle chicane so I started dead last.

I don't know about you guys, but I was experiencing consistent lag from turn 12 to 19 during almost every lap. I spun(with the help of the AI most of the time) a few times before reaching the 2nd spot, which awarded me multiple blocking and collision-causing penalty plus extra tire wear. I was having around 2 minutes something in time penalty before I left, plus I needed another pit stop since my tire were done again which resulted in a quite frustrating race. So I left and watched the Game of thrones premiere and Walking Dead finale instead of trowing the controller by the window hehe.


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Anyone up for a couple of race tonight?


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Jonathan Rousselle wrote:
Anyone up for a couple of race tonight?



Sure....I'll be on in a few minutes.

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I think moving forward we are going to continue with Car Damage Simulation being "Visual Only".
The races are too short to have to pit for a new front wing everytime the AI spins you into the wall.

We can try a race or two of Rules & Flags on "Full" and if it doesn't work go back to "Reduced".

I think we'll stick with DRY weather for the time being, however I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on ABS and Traction Control.

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I think moving forward we are going to continue with Car Damage Simulation being "Visual Only".
The races are too short to have to pit for a new front wing everytime the AI spins you into the wall.

Agreed

We can try with the full rules & flag.

I don't mind racing in the wet as long as we can keep the abs on.

And we should try some race all starting from the back of the pack so we'd all have to fight our way through the AI mess. Just and idea to spice things up.


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I don't mind racing in the wet as long as we can keep the abs on.

And we should try some race all starting from the back of the pack so we'd all have to fight our way through the AI mess. Just and idea to spice things up.


I've done wet races without ABS. It's not bad if you spend a few practice laps adjusting your brake bias.
However with ABS on it's worth about 2 seconds per lap.

I've noticed that not all AI drivers behave the same way. During blue flags for example, some will jump out of your way miles ahead, while others won't move or even worse, jump at the last possible second. Reading online others have reported that every driver behaves somewhat differently. Some are more aggressive, some make more mistakes, some lose their front wings more than other etc etc. Knowing that the AI has "personalities" makes it a bit more interesting.

I raced from 24th to 2nd in the Spanish GP on Sunday. Your best chance for overtaking the AI is out braking them into tight turns. They accelerate just as fast as we do out of the turns, and unless you've got the gearing / DRS you're not going to pass them on the straights.

Cheechoo, I don't know how you managed to get from 24th to 2nd in Monaco. Even with blue flags helping me I was only able to pass 1 or 2 lapped cars per lap. Well done sir!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:13 pm 
Ya i was doing alright in the first two races, with the exception of being run off or spun a few times...I was doing great at Catalunya, but went a touch too hard making my way back through the pack and ran out of fuel on the last lap haha. Monaco though, totally different story, i quit after spending about 25/30+ sec doing a 500 point turn before the fountain hairpin, and it would have been a hazard for everyone else.

I like this game for the fun factor. I agree that there are too few cars and the multiplayer system isn't upto our GT5 standards, but its still a fun racing platform.

I haven't done enough with ABS or TC etc to know how well or badly i will perform.

I do like having 24 cars on track though, always someone to race with even if they do Shumie you from time to time.


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Cheechoo, I don't know how you managed to get from 24th to 2nd in Monaco. Even with blue flags helping me I was only able to pass 1 or 2 lapped cars per lap. Well done sir!


Thanks! I dunno, maybe I had some wind in my back hehe. Well actually, I jumped in front of the mess that was the start of the race. And from there overtook around 2-3(average if you take in consideration of the number of time I spun off) cars a lap, at around 7th lap right in the pit stop pit stop window I was second, than I spun off again.


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