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July 8th 2012 at Atlantic Motorsport Park, Shubenacadie NS brought to you by the Atlantic Sports Car Club

This event is sanctioned by ASN Canada FIA and will be held in accordance with the ASN Canada FIA SoloSport General Competition Rules, the 2012 ASN Canada FIA National Time Attack Regulations, these supplementary regulations, and any ASN Canada FIA bulletins or event supplementary bulletins.

This event will run rain or shine!

We need a minimum of 12 competitors to proceed with this event!

This event will be a NON-PASSING Time Attack!


--Event Location--
Atlantic Motorsport Park, is located approximately 60km north of Halifax or about 40km south of Truro, via Highway 102
Directions: -Take Exit 10 off Highway 102, and head into Shubenacadie (2.3km) -At the stop sign, turn hard right onto West Indian Road (watch for the sign: Indian Brook / Mill Village / McPhee's Corner) -Drive 2.6km, keep right (Look for the Motorsport Park sign) -Drive 2km, turn right onto North Salem Rd (Look for the North Salem / Atlantic Motorsport Park sign) -After 2.6km, the road will change to gravel. Drive on gravel road for another 2.2km -Turn Right onto Creighton Rd (Look for the Atlantic Motorsport Park sign) -Follow this road (1.2km) until you reach the Atlantic Motorsport Park gates
Check out AMP’s web site at http://www.atlanticmotorsportpark.com/ for more about AMP

--Event Officials--
Chief Organizer - Taylor MacArthur (ASCC SoloSport Director)
Senior Steward - Jason Smith (ARMS SoloSport Director)
Clerk of the course - Taylor MacArthur (ASCC SoloSport Director)
Chief Registrar - TBA
Chief Instructor - Brian Gay
Chief Timekeeper - Bluenose Autosport Club
Chief Scrutineer - TBA


--Registration Info--

Fees:
$160 - per competitor

Online registration with pay pal is available at:
ASCC.CA or Paypal $160 + details to paypal@ascc.ca

CASC-OR's 2010 online database for car classing (you'll need to register)
http://www.macrocosm.on.ca/ccdb/

http://asncanada.com/ASN_Solosport/ASN_ ... ations.pdf

ASN Canada FIA Self Tech Form is available at http://www.asncanada.com/2008_Competition_Regu ... p_Form.pdf (this form is required as part of registration)

The following ASN Canada FIA National Regulations are available online
National SoloSport General Competition Regulations
http://asncanada.com/ASN_Solosport/ASN- ... rt-GCR.pdf

National Time Attack Regulations
http://asncanada.com/ASN_Solosport/ASN_ ... ations.pdf


--Event Schedule--

Registration and Scrutineering will be from 0800 to 0930
Drivers meeting - 0930
Practice session - 0945 - 1030
First run group on track - 1045
Lunch break 1200 - 1300
Timed sessions resume - 1300




Supplementary Rules and Regulations:
1.0 These Supplementary Rules and Regulations, Supplementary Bulletins, the Event Schedule and event insurance will be posted on the official notice board.
1.1 All competitors must be a current member of an ASN Canada FIA recognized club or an SCCA recognized club. All competitors must have either a current SoloSprint license (or equivalent as required by their Territory) or a current Regional/National Road Race license. These will need to be shown on request at registration.
1.2 All competitors and pit crew must sign the insurance waiver and wear the provided wrist bands at all times.
1.3 All competitors not familiar with AMP can receive a driver orientation session before driving on the track surface, by special request only, before the Drivers Meeting.
1.4 No speeding/reckless driving will be tolerated on the paved/unpaved roads leading to AMP. This applies to all competitors and their crews. If anyone is caught speeding or reckless driving the applicable driver will loose his or her fastest time of the day (second fastest time will be used for scoring)
1.5 Clerk of the course reserves the right to drop/alter sessions. If a run session is dropped for one group then all groups would drop that same run session.
1.6 Drivers or one of their crewmembers must attend all drivers meetings.
1.7 All competing vehicles must have a fire extinguisher of minimum 2.5lb BC type secured in their car.
2.0 No passengers allowed during timed runs
2.1 Safe passing zones during practice/ instructional periods will be between turns 6 and 7 and turns 11 and 1. These will be marked with pylons. Passing is only allowed with hand signals given from driver of vehicle being overtaken. Overtaken vehicle will slow and let vehicle pass safely on the left.
2.2 Vehicles on track- Windows must be 3/4 up or all the way down. If all the way down it is highly recommended that you have either the proper safety window netting or arm restraints.
2.3 All sunroofs/ T tops must be installed and in their locked positions.
2.4 All convertible tops must be up and secured.
2.5 Red Flag - Used to inform ALL drivers to slow down immediately, to first gear speed, and proceed to nearest marshal station and await further instructions.
2.6 Yellow Flag – Informs the driver to slow down and make space from the vehicle ahead, but to proceed at a pace so as not to slow the vehicle behind. The lap on which the flag is displayed will not be scored and a rerun will be granted, for that lap.
2.7 Black Flag - proceed to the pit lane, stop at the first pit stall as you enter pit lane and await instructions to be given to you by the clerk of the course.
2.8 Fuelling is only permitted in the paddock area, not pit lane. All teams must have a fire extinguisher on hand during fuelling.
2.9 Please ensure that you have adequate fuel for the day, it’s a 20-30 minute trip for fuel. ASCC will have some fuel available on site, but not a lot.
2.10 Clothing- competitors, passengers and crewmembers alike should wear long sleeved shirts, and shall wear long pants, fully enclosed footwear (no sandals, etc) while in pit lane or the track.
2.11 Motorized vehicles- ( atv's, motorcycles, etc.) Drivers of such vehicles must obey pit speed limit (15 kph) and drive prudently. Pit Lane and the track are off limits to all such vehicles unless permission is given by the clerk of the course.
2.12 Impound - After your run group has finished it’s allotted runs for the day you will be directed to the impound for 30 minutes where your vehicle will be available for viewing by your fellow competitors- leave your car open for inspection. Do not move your vehicle unless directed to do so by the impound marshal.
2.13 Car Modification info - in impound competitors shall make available upon request by fellow competitors, the preparation (PIP) schedule and, if the relevant option (s) are taken dyno plots and curb weight measurement detail. Failure to produce those materials could be cause for inquiry.
2.14 Below stock HP dyno plots will not be accepted.
3.0 Timing and Scoring:
Class Propositioning will not be used to calculate class championship points therefore Rules 3.2.2, 3.2.3, 3.2.4, 3.2.5 and 3.3.1 of the 2010 ASN Canada FIA National Time Attack Regulations will not be in effect.
3.1 The start and finish lines are located directly adjacent to the starters bridge.
3.2 Competitors will be divided into two or more run groups. Each competitor will have a total of 12 timed runs per day, 3 or 4 sessions on track each with 3 or 4 timed runs per session.
4.0 Awards:
Awards will be presented at the end of the Regional series on Sept 4th 2011
Overall Awards - 1st, 2nd and 3rd place trophies
Class Awards - will be based on the following
1 trophy - for 1 to 3 competitors in class
2 trophies – for 4 to 6 competitors in class
3 trophies – for 7 to 9 competitors in class
(1 additional trophy for every 4 additional competitors in a class)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:02 am 
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Online pre-registration added:

http://www.ascc.ca/?p=788

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Trying to class my car and I wanna make sure I got it right

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It says I'm in GT3, does that make any sence or did I do domething wrong?


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Hi Shawn, I did a quick PIP schedule for you with the mods you listed. I had your car starting in T1 (58.5 points) class and even after adding the mods I still had you in T1 (59.4 points). The R888's is what gave you back -5 points, otherwise you would land in GT4.

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T1 it is then, thanks Brian


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In recognition of Event #1 of the 2012 ARMS Time Attack Regional Championship at Atlantic Motorsport Park.

The first 15 registered competitors will receive a Free 'Atlantic Motorsport Park' windshield banner decal.
Provided the event takes place.
This is a $20.00 value.
Your choice of White or Yellow.

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Come on, and register NOW!!!


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The Bullitt isn't back together yet, but I will be there to help Marshall for the day. I'm pretty sure Trevor will be there as well to help.

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So. how many people registered? I will not be. $$$. I will be out to help out.

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I heard that only 2 people have registered. :(
Come on folks, if you're going please register ASAP!

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Up to 4 online currently, keep them coming!

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We Currently have 6 registered online and hopefully more to come. As the SUPP Regs state we need a minimum of 12 for this event to be a go. Please stay tuned here as we will be making the final call and making a post at 6pm tomorrow.

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Consider me in if i pass tech on Sunday


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I'll be there if I'm feeling better, I've been sick all week


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Just registered for my first time attack event. Hope we get the numbers, the weather sounds great! :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:20 pm 
Wondering what the rules are for taking passengers around the track. Also wondering if I could sign up for a loaner helmet, I think I am going to need one (said no during my registration). Hopefully we get 12 people!

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So.... how many are registered so far?
And would it be possible to post first names and last initial so people can get an idea who is going?
That may spur some people who might be sitting on the fence to register.

Gordon, Taylor, Jason?

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Mike Miller wrote:
Wondering what the rules are for taking passengers around the track. Also wondering if I could sign up for a loaner helmet, I think I am going to need one (said no during my registration). Hopefully we get 12 people!

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No passengers allowed during competition, or I suspect during practice except as an instructor/student. Loaner helmets will be available.

I count 9 pre-registered so far via the ASCC website:

Michael M paid
Kathy G
Graham G paid
Jonathan C paid
Gabriel O paid
Kevin S paid
Bob O paid
Derrick C
Shawn C

IF YOU HAVE NOT CLASSED YOUR CAR PLEASE GO HERE AND DO SO BEFORE THE EVENT!

CASC-OR's 2010 online database for car classing (you'll need to register)
http://www.macrocosm.on.ca/ccdb/

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Add me to list. I cannot paypal because the credit card on paypal account just expired, but i am already on my way to AMP.


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Mike Miller wrote:
Wondering what the rules are for taking passengers around the track. Also wondering if I could sign up for a loaner helmet, I think I am going to need one (said no during my registration). Hopefully we get 12 people!

Thanks!


No passengers allowed during competition, or I suspect during practice except as an instructor/student. Loaner helmets will be available.

I count 9 pre-registered so far via the ASCC website:

Michael M paid
Kathy G
Graham G paid
Jonathan C paid
Gabriel O paid
Kevin S paid
Bob O paid
Derrick C
Shawn C

IF YOU HAVE NOT CLASSED YOUR CAR PLEASE GO HERE AND DO SO BEFORE THE EVENT!

CASC-OR's 2010 online database for car classing (you'll need to register)
http://www.macrocosm.on.ca/ccdb/

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I am sorry to say that we (ASCC) will be having to cancel tomorrow's Time Attack due to a lack of Pre-Registered competitors. Part of the issue with not having the number of competitors we needed pre-registered is that we need people to work marshal stations for safety purposes. With less than 12 competitors we do not have enough people to man stations.

The reason for us making a 6pm cut off is so everyone who would be coming out to the event would have a reasonable amount of time to make changes to their schedules.

Again I am sorry to say that we are having to cancel this event.

ASCC will arrange the reimbursement of everyone who has pre-paid.

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Well this sucks!!!
So a premier Regional event gets cancelled even before the date of the event based on not enough pre-registered entrants.
I wonder if a Regional road race would get cancelled based on not enough pre-registration.
So we're looking at $320.00 and not enough volunters (And I noticed that some did volunter, thanks guys for that, I know youd rather be working on your cars.)
Hope we can keep the Series going...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:52 pm 
Wow, this really stinks. Will there be lapping or anything else going on tomorrow instead? I think some advertising or something is in order for the next race.

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I'm not a member of ASCC but in doing the math 12 competitors does not seem to be the "break even" number, but more of an "acceptable losses" number.

Sorry to see this event canceled but Taylor did state in the original post that unless ASCC received 12 pre registrations the event would be canceled. He also did post a deadline of 6pm tonight, which is when the hard decision was made.

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Everyone willing to pay an extra $32 to drive tomorrow? I am. We can make up the cost.

2 run groups = 5 workers, Plus a couple volunteers and we have enough to man corners 2,3,5,7,9 and 11.

This seems doable. The series will never grow if the events get cancelled.


Can the 10 of us at least go lapping tomorrow?

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Everyone willing to pay an extra $32 to drive tomorrow? I am. We can make up the cost.

2 run groups = 5 workers, Plus a couple volunteers and we have enough to man corners 2,3,5,7,9 and 11.

This seems doable. The series will never grow if the events get cancelled.


Can the 10 of us at least go lapping tomorrow?

I am absolutely willing to pay more for tommoro and so is my partner in crime(Gabe) i have others coming who could help with marshaling...i was told not to pre register until they saw the work done on my brakes which is dialed in and ready to rock for tommoro. Myself and Gabe are new to the sport and 2 new cars to the sport would constitute growth. It took an act of god to get the EBC yellowstuffs in from the UK for my car but is done installed... This is salvageable and needs to continue. We even asked Debbie at the ASCC meeting if there weren't 12 competitors everyone would just have to pay a few bucks more. Seems Do-able to me. Not doing it with this amount of people willing to pay more is unnacceptable.


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While I am no longer a member of ASCC I support whatever decision they have made regarding this event.

Having organized and run these events for many years I know what goes into the the planning, preparation and execution of such a large event.

First off the type of insurance needs to be purchased weeks in advance (to avoid a late fee). It is more than double (almost triple) the cost for Time Attack (no passing) as it is for just Lapping. Changing the insurance on a weekend day is not possible. You could use the Time Attack insurance for lapping but it would be a very expensive lapping day.

Likely at this point MRT has been canceled and AMP has been notified that ASCC is not renting the facility. MRT probably have already made other plans.
Any other (ARMS) club wanting to rent the track would need insurance, which can't be purchased on such short notice, let alone the weekend.

Special circumstances aside, I think if people were truely interested they would have pre registered.
I know a number of regular competitors in the region were unable to make this event either due to car issues or financial issues.

Speaking from a regional standpoint we only need 3 events to constitute a regional series. So lets make the next 3 count!

Again I'm not a member of ASCC, but I've been in their position before and sometimes the hard decisions are the right ones, even if it makes you unpopular.

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I agree with the event being cancelled for the reasons given and feel bad for those trying to organize the event as well as competitors, including myself.

That being said, this was going to be my first event and I was looking forward to participating. I spoke to a number of people at lapping last weekend and excitement seemed to be high for this event. Being a former stock car racer I was looking forward to getting back into friendly motorsport competition. After speaking with a number of people and getting tips on springs, tires, etc. I was excited about spending some money to be more competitive. Hard to justify spending money if this continues to happen. I'm new to this type of motorsport and think that is the best kept secret in the area. There will have to be some work to do before the next event in order to insure that this doesn't happen again. I am willing to help out leading up to the next event if there is anything that I can do. I would love to be at the meeting Tuesday to maybe discuss further, however I have tickets to a concert.

Hopefully further discussion can save the next event and the season.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:58 pm 
I am willing to spend an extra 30 bucks to make this happen. I also had two buddies who were going to come with me, both would be willing to marshal. All three of us got time off of work tomorrow to make this happen. Hugely disappointing, I cant believe there were only 10 people interested in this.


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