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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:00 pm 
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So I've been looking through the rule book to see if there are any changes this year when it comes to classing cars. It looks like the Stock class has been changed to only allow street legal tires. It also appears that many of the other classes above stock still refer to tires allowed in Stock as the requirements for that class. If I've interpreted this correctly, it seems that in order to run a non-DOT approved slick tire, one must class their car as Prepared or Modified. Does this mean that Street Prepared and Street Modified must now run street tires in addition to the Street Touring and Stock classes? About half of the competitors here in Moncton were using slicks last year. I guess this year they will either be in the Prepared or Modified classes or running street tires, eh? :shuffle:


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There are no major changes for 2013. The ones you're referring to are proposed changes for 2014 onward. See this thread for clarification: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=12091

The proposed rules won't affect SP/SM classes either. Where SP references 13.3, it adds "Tires must meet the eligibility requirements for Street Category with the exception of 13.3.A.1, 13.3.A.2, and 13.3.A.3." which removes the treadwear and tread depth requirements.

There are no changes to the SM rules, so I presume it just keeps clause 16.1.J, "Tires legal in Stock, Street Touring, or Street Prepared are permitted."

Non-DOT slicks have never been legal below prepared class (at least not in 2012/13). DOT approved tires are what people should be using.

I'm basing all this off the 2013 SCCA/ASN rulebook and the April 2013 SCCA fasttrack bulletin.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:01 pm 
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Thanks. I see where I have gone wrong. I've assumed that autoslalom slicks were not DOT approved. I call them slicks but they get around that designation with a couple of grooves to make a "tread". So, there is no change for this year. O.k..


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:12 pm 
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13.3 TIRES
Any tire which is OE on a car eligible for Stock Category may be used.
Non-OE tires must meet the following requirements to be eligible for
use in Stock category:
A. The tire must not appear on the following list, which may be altered
at any time by the SEB upon notification of membership.
No tire models are currently listed.
B. No tire models will be approved for competition during the rest of
the year after April 30 of each calendar year. Each eligible tire model
must meet all requirements of Section 13.3 by April 30 and must
continue to meet them thereafter. A tire model will normally be deter
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mined by the designation in the Tire Guide.
However, any of the following changes or similar changes (as deter
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mined by the SEB) will also be considered to represent a new mod
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el for eligibility purposes, even if the designation does not change:
change of tread pattern at either full or partial tread depth; charac
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terization by the manufacturer or distributor of a tire as “new” after
April 30.
A tire model which was previously allowed by these rules continues
to be legal until specifically disallowed. This follows years of prece
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dence on eligibility for discontinued tire models.
If a manufacturer reintroduces a tire model which was previously
discontinued, that tire will be considered a new model. Therefore,
it will have to meet the rules specified in Section 13.3 including the
April 30 introduction date.
C. The model of tire must be listed in a current or previous 2 years of
the “Tire Guide” and “Tread Design Guide” or otherwise be approved
by the SEB. The tire model must have Department of Transportation
(DOT) approval.
D. Within each tire model, the sizes which are available must be equally
available to all competitors. Tire model variations differing from stan
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dard specification, delivered only on a limited basis, or only to se
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lected competitors may not be used.
E. No non-DOT racing tire or recap (on any casing) may be used. Sip
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ing or re-grooving of tires is not permitted.
F. Each tire model must be sold in at least 4 rim diameters with a total
of at least 6 sizes.
G. Tire must fit the allowable wheels and fender wells without modifica
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tion.
H. Each tire must have non-zero measurable tread depth (i.e., points
where it is possible to obtain positive measurement values) as de
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scribed in Section 3.3.3.B. Tires may not have cord visible at any
time during competition.


Don't the normal slicks (ie R6s/A6/etc) meet all of those criteria?

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You edited your post you slippery bugger :orglaugh:

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Hehe. Indeed I did. I made my first mistake on record. :lol:


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