Awesome/interesting list
Luc's time is faster than Josh's though

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Yeah, there's a mistake. It should be 1:15.8xx for Luc. A few more that I will call you about tomorrow after these night shifts.

Great list. What's the fastest time on street tires, anyone know?

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My 1:15.3xx is missing.

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Rob. it's in this listing
http://www.armsinc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=12949

Fastest DOT approved tire time is 1:10.722. # 2 in the list in the thread I've linked

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Thanks Brent.

I've seen that number before. I was wondering about non R-comps.

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What exactly does R-comps mean? It's just vernacular for something that isn't marketed as a race tire. Aside from a DOT rating, everything else changes year upon year. Non-premium, premium , street tire class tread wear numbers etc.

Tough to define, but I get what you are asking.

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That 10.7 is on a Hoosier A7, the fastest of the fast DOT approved tires. You drive those down the ordinary roads and you are plucking stones out of them. I think you need to get into the realm of the 200tw to get the times you may be searching for, and even then there are superheroes in the mix.

I fully agree with Steve here. I think the 200 tread wear is a decent place to start. There are some super fast 200plus tread wear tires though. And when you set the time you need a licenced Nova Scotia tech to sign off that you truly are street legal outside of safety equipment, and the club needs to control the tech. Multiple cars with stickers that were modded after the sticker date. I know a few cars out there claiming to be street legal that don't come close. Fiberglass rear side windows, lexan windows, no cat, unsealed cabins, so on and so on. Lol.

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The DOT legal thing is silly these days, all the fast R-comps are as fast, or faster than any race compound slick.
Roger's lap is solid, regardless of tire.
The true treaded "street" tire thing is also silly, its just a game to play these days, 200tw tires these days are almost as fast as the slower R-comps like the NT-01/R888.

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The times on this list are just personal best times, driving anything. Mine needs to be updated, same car, not exactly street legal though. As far as the 200TW goes, I will be a good guinea pig as I just did a 77.005 on decent condition RA1's, I now have the same 245 section width in new Bridgestone RE71R to compare, I fully expect these to be quicker, hopefully the next sprint in August will be a go!

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The current rules already separate out the street tire cars from DOT-R's, someone just has to figure out who checked the box "street tires" on their mod list and then start a new fast time chart just for fun.

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Rob - I don't think this list has been updated in a year.

I i think the tradware rating is a farce. Case in point: toyo r1r's had a 140 twr when the SCCA street tire definition was 'a tire with a minimum 140 tread ware rating'. The next year SCCA changed their definition to 'a tire with a minimum of 200 tread ware rating'. Then magically that year all r1r's had a 200 twr. Not suspicious at all.

There are different tires that will yield different times we have to class them somehow even if it is imperfect. There are 4 distinct tire classes but there is some overlap at the edges. They only way to truly figure out which are the best in a given category is to test them out.

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Thanks for all the responses re: street tires. I agree that it is tough to have a concrete definition. It will differ from person to person. For me, if I'd feel comfortable daily driving it year round, except for snow and standing water, it's a street tire.

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Is there a similar list to this generated for the TRAC guys? Curious as to who fits where on different tires.

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